@Omega64 yeah Tolma help is a double edge sword as storytelling made a lot of people disbelief Satou and party feats. i thought Tolma was a social butterfly most likely getting into a lot of circles thanks to his brother workshop but he gathered the information himself

It nice Sara complex with her sister goes away.

Yeah i think the author going to make Arisa getting the magic to change her hair color a minor plot in a novel like Lulu getting the gold thunder fox gun from weeyari while hunting the Sand Storm demon lord

Rin lacking someone like Arisa in her corner like the other girls do maybe it just my own hope or my guess on how Satou become a harem protag as i believe Arisa will work behind and is working behind Satou back to make him a polygamous (got the idea from plan harem by Momo Deviluke in To Love Ru) if she can get Azea on side Satou will have a hard time rejecting the girls especially his core party

The great demon lord season never heard about that it would make sense it really boost the faith it seem that Satou walked into a position hand made for him then. yeah he was going to turn it down because he believe it was just a spy job but Prime Dukus assured him it wasn't stating that it would do more harm then good send someone untrained in spy work to spy plus he offered a collection of cookbooks

That a shame that the Shiga eight fade especially after going strong from when Hikaru was king. it also a shame the the royal army and shiga eight are not using the labyrinth to it advantage

Haha, I don't know if its gone honestly. Sera just has bigger concerns right now.

Nah, I think he probably didn't want to focus too much on the mental magic because it was leaving anyway. But Arisa herself mentions that because her level wasn't that high anyway, her mental magic wasn't even that impressive. The whole reason it even worked on Satou to begin with was because of her Unique Skills. In both cases you are looking at whether to make use of something that is leaving regardless, so ultimately, its inconsequential whether they use it or not to start with. Because you end up in the same place regardless.

I can see that, because like Momo, Arisa pushes the harem because she doesn't have the confidence to steal Satou for herself. That being said, I feel the person who can make Satou a harem protag is just Aze. She is probably the only person who can convince Satou and even then its a hard sell. She tried to convince Satou initially because it was the Creator God's law, but Satou could tell its not what she actually wanted herself. Aze wants to monopolize Satou just as much as any girl, she just doesn't think she has the right too. So honestly, if Aze wants the harem to happen legitimately, and not just because its a law, but rather, she wants the girls to be happy then she could probably convince him. I feel if she makes it clear that she appreciates Satou putting her feelings first and even denying the harem for her, she probably would feel more comfortable with it overall. However, the issue here is that Aze has a submissive attitude, especially after Satou himself because the Creator God.

That is where the real problem lies, because Satou loves Aze, but he is also technically Aze's Lord and Master. So Aze, who is very devout, doesn't really have the mind set to argue against Satou's desires. Especially now that is the Creator God, so he can straight up remove the previous Creator God's propagation law. Meaning that Aze has an even harder uphill battle in convincing him.

The Great Demon Lords are the Demon Lords far stronger than the normal seasonal Demon Lords that appear every 66 years. For example, Golden Boar Lord and Dog-Headed Ancient King are both Great Demon Lords. This much is clear because despite being "Demon Lords" they are level 120+, which is far stronger than anything Hayato can handle. The legend is supposed to be that when the Great Demon Lord Season begins, the Founder Hero of Saga will descend and battle them on behalf of the Gods. The Founder Hero in legend is supposed to be the Subordinate God that sealed the Demon God hundreds of years ago. Despite all the propaganda, that legend is technically true, because the name of the Founder Hero, the first Emperor of Saga, is a name you might recognize, Hero Suzuki Ichirou.

But yeah, like I said, they specifically set up the role to be Vice-Minister instead of Minister because they were already eyeing Satou for the role long before the Ministry was even announced. And long before Satou was even interviewed by Dukus for the role.

Its not that big of a deal, many side characters fall into the background as the characters get stronger and stronger. And to be honest, they just represent "peak humanity" since its very hard to surpass level 60, because that is widely considered to be Hero territory. And the side stories explain a big reason for that is because of the massive EXP requirements to get that high, which is easier for Heroes to get to because they get double EXP from fights.

@Omega64 Arisa got as lot of use out of her psychic magic the mind blow and repellant field have been very useful i bet that one of the magic satou pick up first when he gets the ability to chant

True but Arisa knows how to get into Azea head that why she used a illusion of a silver hair red eye girl when she first met Satou plus i think Azea would want Mia to be happy along with a lot of the other girls using that i think Arisa can get her to ask Satou to take the other as bride plus most normal lifespan so in the end it be her and satou alone

Still Satou walking into a position that perfect for him is amusing

I like the shiga eight Hermina (the gun saint) Heim the weed (pochi and tama instructor) and Reilas the shield user (he didn't much time)

Once again, that is if Aze makes that decision if she isn't pressured by her duty. Technically she was very upset when Mia tricked Satou into doing the kiss of vow on her. And she has revealed a few times she does indeed want to monopolize Satou. So really, its a harder sell regardless.

Actually, since Akon Kagura is after him too, technically it would be Satou and Kagura at the end, because they are eternal. Aze has some kind of lifespan presumably, but if she accepts the harem she would essentially be accepting Kagura for the duration of Aze's life too.

@Omega64 yeah I get satou not a harem protagonist it just my wishful thinking as I don't want liza, lulu and Karina to lose. I became a harem ending fan because of Highschool dxd as a Akeno fan I knew she didn't stand a chance of getting issei with Rias and Asia to compete with plus some of my other favorite are harem ending like in another world with my smartphone, how a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom, farming life in another world and trapped in a dating sim all have official harems I do like none harem isekai/fantasy like bofuri, infinite dendrogram, and I shall survive using potions but harem isekai where the mc overpowered and become a king or high ranking noble are my favorite especially if they have rpg elements

Thanks for all the replies I enjoy the back and forth

Ha. I always just think its funny because Satou is usually the last person anyone thinks about. People are more concerned about the girls feelings than his. Poor guy. XD

@Omega64 yeah touya from in Another World with my smartphone wendlin from 8th son are you kidding me, daiblo from how not to summon a demon lord and Glenn from monster girl doctor all them uncomfortable with being a polygamous but like I said I'm a harem ending fan because of the girls with satou of he just gets with azea that cut of the main party members Nana's sisters and Karina

Karina one of my favorite characters from he introduction lost in the woods looking for the giant village, her reaction to the giant anger at her new family name, the battle of muno city, and more. She kind, noble and disaster prone she remains me of Cera from monster musume, tisilia from monster girl doctor, yae from in Another World with my smartphone, Lilith from trinity seven or aisha from how a realist hero rebuilt the kingdom

The important thing to remember though is that a lot of those characters you mentioned were more uncomfortable with the concept of harems in general than they were making the conscious decision not to engage in them. Satou doesn't really have an issue with harems present in other characters, but he himself doesn't want to engage him them. He is choosing monogamy basically. Its also important to remember that is is, in fact, a 29 year old man mentally, and although he admits girls like Karina, Sera, and Lulu are physically attractive to him, that doesn't mean he wants to engage them sexually or more importantly romantically in general. In many ways Satou acts and treats the girls more like little sisters or daughters than he does as girls of the same age. He has an easier time with Arisa because she is actually even mentally older than him, even if she is more immature. But that also doesn't change the fact that her physically appearance bothers him.

That is why Aze is such a nice compromise. Not only is she millions of years old, she maintains a young appearance like him and she has a cute personality. Satou even says multiple times that she checks all of his boxes. So all you have to do is compare her to the other girls and you can see the issue.

Also, the issue with thinking the other girls will "lose" if they aren't with Satou or that he is the only possible option is a mistake in and of itself. The girls deserve to be treasured the way Satou treasures Aze, not treated as a compromise or tag along because the real wife allows it. Of course, in this world, odds are no matter the husband, the girls will end up as part of a marriage because polygamy is allowed and embraced from reproduction reasons. Now, you are right that some of the girls best prospects are with Satou, i.e. Arisa, Lulu, Karina, Sistina, Ringarde, and Mary; because the standards for these girls are too difficult to match otherwise. However, most of the other girls wouldn't have a problem finding a match if they weren't hell-bent on Satou.

For example, Liza is both beautiful by lizardkin standards and incredible strong, which for a strength-focused race like the lizardkin is a huge plus. Even the champion lizardkin of the Silga Kingdom referred to her as a "goddess" and was willing to throw anyway his station to pursue her. However, Liza's individual standards are that she refuses to have a partner weaker than her. But at the same time, but that logic, Liza's options are pretty much limited to Gods and Demon Lords, since those are the only beings strong enough to match her at EOS, and even then none could have kids with her, so it becomes pointless by her standards. Basically, she has to pursue Satou and have him transform into a lizardkin for her because there is literally no other options with her current standards. Ironically though, Satou mentions that if she came to him with that issue, which he notes internally is an issue, she could just bring a perspective husband and Satou would power level him for her to be stronger than her. But once again, this is her standard, if he isn't strong by his own merit, than he isn't good enough in the first place.

@Omega64 i get what you saying that Satou see his party as daughters even Arisa much to her annoyance and unlike the others noted he didn't just roll with polygamy as he didn't have the "new world new life mentality" which is the most mentally view point as people like Naofumi from shield hero and Hajime there focus of getting home let to being unstable in my opinion

I really don't see any of his party marrying any one other than Satou i could even see Rin disinheriting herself for her family to avoid a marriage same with a lot of Hayato party beside Rus and Fifi as neither seem that in love with Hayato, Sara will remain in the temple, Karina will remain unmarried as i don't see count muno or his son forcing her into a marriage even if Nina is screaming at the top of her lung to do it for political reason. Lulu will never true a man beside Satou because of the bullying she subjected to by her cousins and half brothers and Tama and Pochi i just don't see them finding a partner as for Sistina he father may force a marriage but i don't see it being a happy one and she may turn against the king and kingdom as for Arisa i do see her getting with anyone else maybe another reincarnate or another summoned person but the local will always view her purple hair as a mark of misfortunate or curse

As for Liza even if Satou power levels a guy is she not going to look at that like she looks at her own situation he only strong because Satou made him strong the way she looks at her own strength and accomplishment so evenif he could bet her it weas Satou doing making me unfit as a marriage partner?

Like i said it just my wish satou become a polygamist as i only seem sorrow for the other girls beside Azea

I mean technically Rin is not under any obligation to get married, she isn't the heir nor is anyone able to force her either. Rin does indeed want to get married, the pickings are just slim for her because of her standards. Rin just has a bit of a complex of being as old as she is without a partner, even saying she feels uncomfortable visiting her friends in the Duchy Capital because they are all married with kids. Satou offers an easy out to that. Sera likewise could remain in the temple but doesn't want to because of her feelings, and she already left due to the Duke's order. I suppose she could go back, since she still has her Oracle skill, proving her and Satou haven't been intimate. Karina has plenty of suitors even despite her age, the issue is just she is so socially awkward most struggle to deal with her, Satou included. Technically, Satou could just transport Lulu to Earth like where Hayato is and she would instantly become a celebrity because as Arisa and Satou note, Lulu's beauty is second to none by Japanese standards. Even if she has a complex, putting her around people who genuinely like her will help her confidence. Especially if they actually put her around others that look more like her. Tama and Pochi that is stupid because they are children, so we have no idea how they will approach relationships in the future, so its foolish to say that have no prospects besides Satou. Sistina you are right, but Satou even noted that they skipped over their "wedding" date and the King said nothing because he is afraid of angrying Satou, likewise, Vistal even mentioned that the nobility considers Sistina all but married anyway. Meaning Sistina and Satou's relationship could not change at all and it wouldn't bother anybody. Sistina herself doesn't seem all that interested in her "obligation" but that changes once she gets interested in Satou. Like Liza and Rin though, Satou said its actually rather easy to take someone of their tastes, power level them, and then get them the titles they need to marry these girls. As for Arisa, I still think you are focusing too much on her reincarnate status, she could easily dye her hair and Satou could remove her Unique Skills if need-be. Hell, Satou can manipulate genes using Body Alchemy. If he wanted he could straight up take away her purple hair. These sort of things are not actually a concern.

I mean, in Satou's defense, Liza is only that strong because Satou made her strong. Its not like Liza is just a product of her own hard work either. Satou has carefully prepared everything for the girls so they can grow in strength in safety without really being overwhelmed. Him doing that for a potential suitors for Liza is no different. My point was always Liza probably wouldn't respect the male in the first place to make him a potential suitor, so its a vicious cycle. The only real hope is that Satou takes on a random Lizardkin and trains him up similar to Liza and then helps him surpass Liza to meet her minimum expectations.

And like I've been saying, its not as bad as you make it sounds, its not Satou or nothing. The girls either have unrealistic expectations or are too tunnel-visioned on Satou. Nothing any of the girls are really needing is not something Satou can't set up for them. You want someone strong? Satou can power-level them. You want someone smart? Satou can control their intelligence stat using Administrator. You want someone of the same race? Satou can edit a person's race. You want someone with a certain title? Titles are given on merit, Satou makes you strong and skilled and you get the title you need. Satou says multiple times he is able to prepare any man for any of the girls, so any expectation is not impossible if they just choose a partner. The only thing unrealistic is them picking Satou, because he has no interest.