Thread:Omega64/@comment-4503935-20190703001710/@comment-10330822-20191111075953

Yeah, I feel there still might be a traitor in the Alliance's mist, and I'm still struggling to figure that out. But I also feel the fact should be obvious to the Alliance just as much as it is to us.

In which case, this could be more to sniff out the traitor more than to trick Orochi, since Orochi was oblivious to the plan to begin with. If someone didn't leak the plans to him, he wouldn't have even known. So it could be a sort of a double trick, trick Orochi into thinking the revolt wasn't real, have the traitor reveal the plan, let Orochi think the matter is handled, scoop up the traitor, and then deal with Orochi.

To be honest through, Orochi isn't the problem, besides maybe Kyoshiro, I really don't think anyone on Orochi's side is a threat. Sure he has far more people, but its already established that numbers mean next to nothing in this series and I feel Oda's whole design so far as been to overwhelm the readers with numbers when they really aren't important. Remember Fishman Island? 100,000 vs. 10. Dressrosa? 2,000 vs. a couple dozen gladiators.

Most of Kaido and Orochi's forces are probably jokes. Basic fodder forces that mean next to nothing. The only real threats are Kaido, Big Mom, maybe Orochi (probably not), Kyoshiro, the Calamities the Headliners, probably the Numbers, and maybe Big Mom's crew.

With so much going on its hard to remember that. Don't let them confuse you with big numbers like they matter. Especially when Luffy's already KO'd 50,000 fishman with Conqueror's Haki alone. Plus, I still suspect they will be finding a way to remove Big Mom from the island, as I find it highly unlikely she and Kaido will both be defeated this arc.

If you want a small theory, maybe Whole Cake gets attacked while Big Mom is away, maybe by Blackbeard or the Navy. Since Smoothie is with her, its basically just Cracker and Katakuri to deal with Yonko/Commander-level or Admiral-level threats. Big Mom abandons Kaido. Kaido gets beat. Big Mom returns to Totland. Totland is destroyed. Big Mom blames Luffy. Big Mom attacks Fishman Island to get back at Luffy. Luffy returns to Fishman Island. Luffy beats Big Mom and her pirates at Fishman Island, possibly with Poseidon. Fishman Island is destroyed. Poseidon guides the sea kings to usher the fishman to the surface with Noah.

Either way, I feel like the defeat of Kaido and Big Mom won't end the Beast and Big Mom Pirates. They are just too large just to fully collapse, like how the Whitebeard Pirates survived Whitebeard's death. I feel that perhaps someone will take over once they fall, like Katakuri for the Big Mom Pirates. I've actually be suspecting lately that the story is leading to a Davy Back fight, so some crews may survive the "Yonko Saga/Throne War" so they can partcipate, and the resulting crew might become the Pirate King's fleet that is used in Marineford.